Aaaah la fameuse guestlist … comment ? est-ce embêtant ? à quel point c’est embêtant ? c’est ok de ramener davantage de monde avec nous ? quelles conséquences sur les revenus de l’établissement ?
Lee Burridge nous dit tout, à travers un long statut sur Facebook dans lequel il évoque presque tous les points.
Guestlist et capacité
« … Certains clubs ont des capacités limitées, et te mettre toi, ton petit copain/copine ton ami et les gars que tu as rencontré dans un bar juste pour avoir l’air cool … ce n’est juste pas possible. »
Les fameux +2 +3 ou +4
« Si après votre message sur Facebook, Whatsapp ou autre, vous avez reçu une réponse positive à votre » Hey tu peux m’ajouter à la guestlist ? » … Ajouter » Parfait alors moi + 4 alors » ce n’est pas du tout ok. Ton message à la base voulait laisser entendre que tu voulais juste une place. »
Le « Salut, ça va » avant de passer aux choses sérieuses
« C’est tout de même un peu ennuyeux les « Salut, ça va ? » « Comment vas-tu ? » alors qu’on voit clairement où tu veux en venir … c’est mieux de balancer direct : « Tu pourrais stp m’ajouter à la guestlist ce soir ? » ça fera gagner du temps à tout le monde »
Les questions inutiles
« Nous avons tous des vies assez remplies et c’est mieux si tu check sur google l’adresse de l’endroit où aura lieu la soirée, ou si tu veux avoir une idée sur le dress code … au lieu de demander et embêter le gars qui t’as ajouté sur la guestlist »
Être une fois sur la guestlist ne veut pas dire que tu le seras à vie !
« … Si jamais tu as eu un verre gratuit d’un barman, tu vas lui demander d’autres ? Ou est ce que tu crois que tu vas avoir des verres gratuits toute ta vie ? C’est exactement la même chose … il faudra payer ta place à un certain moment…. »
Joue ton rôle !
« Payer ta place, est une sorte de contribution à la scène électronique que tu aimes tant .. cela permet aux promoteurs de te ramener de super artistes, mais aussi, ça leur permet de manger, de payer leurs factures, d’acheter des vêtements et de vivre (d’acheter des yachts dans certains cas) .. »
Une dernière chose
« J’adore vraiment quand il y a du monde derrière moi au box Dj, mais la musique est de loin meilleure de l’autre coté … le backstage est un endroit sympa à visiter pendant un moment, mais il ne faut pas rater la fête, qui se produit justement de l’autre coté. »
Le statut entier en anglais :
To anyone who’s ever asked for a guest list spot but, at the same time, to no one in particular as I write.
I decided after a Summer of being bombarded with guest list requests that it was time to share a few thoughts from the industry side of things. I decided to write, on behalf of artists, promoters, managers and anyone else in general who works in the music industry (who shall henceforth be referred to as ‘we’) in regards to the (currently non existent) etiquette of soliciting a guest list spot.
Here are a few points that you might not have previously thought about, or, worse, really don’t care about. Try to remember there is a person on the other end of your request who also gets the same from one to one thousand other people.I’m, sure they’d appreciate you (even more) if you at least considered the following before asking (again..and again…and again) that same weekend-centric question.
So, make yourself comfortable, pay attention, there will be questions (well, actually, comments) after…
Many events and venues have a limited capacity. All of them however also have many expenses. Bearing that in mind, try to remember, the guest list isn’t endless. At some point the ability to add you, your girlfriend or boyfriend, your best friend, their friends and, at times, strangers who you just decided to invite along after meeting them in the pub or the line as your plus one or plus three, six or ten (depending on how rude/cheeky your original request\\ was) to make you look cool, isn’t actually possible.
When you write your text, email or private message on Facebook or instagram, WhatsApp, postcard sent ahead of time to the companies p.o box,or, a lot of the time, all of those in one night that say some variation of “hey, could you add me to the list”. If you actually get a positive response please don’t then feel it’s ok to then say “Great! Me plus four”. Your original message infers that it’s just you who wants to be on the list. Not you plus infinity.
As it’s usually Friday or Saturday that you’ve decided to write, that little bit of small talk, such as, “Hi, how are you. What have you been up to?” is actually a little bit annoying as it’s blatantly obvious why you weren’t just checking in to see if we are healthy. Remember (as we do), we’ve not heard from you since the last time we were in your city or you were at our party. I feel it really is far better to just get it over with right off the bat. “Hi. Would you be kind enough to put me on the list tonight. Hope you’re well” just saves us all time.
We all lead busy lives so it’s better to goggle the address of the club or look online rather than to ask us questions that are easily found with a quick search. We don’t always know what the « dress code is » or « if it’s over 21 ». I personally do know however what my set time, so, that’s an OK question. By the way though, the other DJ’s are mostly pretty good so maybe come earlier and spend some of that hard saved money you didn’t pay to get in on a drink at least and support the night. Not just the main artist.
This is a big one so pay attention!
A guest list spot is an act of kindness on our part. A free gift. It would be great though that you didn’t feel being added to a list once then entitles you to be on every guest list in perpetuity at parties we are playing or putting on. We do, obviously, always add our closest of friends to the guest list without fail. Here’s a funny thing though, they actually rarely ask and are always more than happy to support. We love that about them. It’s usually us asking them if they want to be on the list. No offence but we barely know you. Perhaps we met once and exchanged a few words. Perhaps we messaged back and forth online about a track or a set. That’s cool! Most of us are fairly nice people and happy to chat about music or parties when we have time. To listen to your experience and input too. Sometimes though, we need you to (happily) support the party and, therefore, the artists, promoter and/or night. After kindly gifting guest list places to many, many people over the years please try to imagine how many people actually ask each weekend. It’s a lot. Try your hardest to resist asking each and every time to be on the list (unless of course things are truly not going so well for you at this moment in your life and it’s really hard to actually afford to come along. I feel you deserve a guest list spot more than most). We always notice the same people continually asking.
Further to that it would be really cool if (and this is more from the promoter side of things) you are told the list is full or closed to then not start calling and/or messaging absolutely anyone else who might just be able to put you on that same guest list we already told you was full. We’ve seriously had bar staff, the cleaner, long lost friends, our parents and promoters from other countries still trying to add you, by asking us, after saying it wasn’t possible. Not cool man. Do you think we won’t notice?
At this point it’s just annoying and if you’re that desperate to be on a list that you should be put on, but, minus one (meaning both of you have to pay. But hey, at least you’re on the list, right?). If we said no we really did say it for a valid reason. It’s an expensive and a lot of the time risky venture throwing events. Remember it’s good to play your part in supporting the music scene you enjoy so much and you can do that by buying a ticket. If you were in a bar and the bar person gave you a free drink would you then expect free drinks for the rest of your life from them? In most cases I think that that’s a firm no. There seem to be certain other elements of your night out that you are always happy to pay for and don’t expect for free which your dealer provides. Did they hook you up once? If so are you now entitled to freebies forever? Again, probably no (by the way, drugs are bad m’kay!) One of the elements though that you should be willing and happy to pay for is a ticket to get in to the party. Not only does it allow promoters to carry on booking great artists which provide you with a great night out but also allows them to eat, buy clothes, pay their bills and, in rare cases, buy a new yacht.
p.s… No one I know actually owns any sort of nautical vessel. Hmmm….maybe bedouin. I’ll have to ask them.
I wrote and rewrote these words over the past few months after Summer as someone had probably asked me for them « plus ten » or texted me a few hours before a party after me not having heard from them for months. It’s a common part of the weekend but it got me thinking that maybe it was because (some) people just don’t know any better. It’s hopefully allows all the serial guest list requesters to see that on the other end of the never ending guest list requests we receive multiple times each week (usually only on Fridays and Saturdays though) is a person who will always gladly do it when they can. Just try not to expect it. It’s far better to get a gift you aren’t expecting, right?
When DJ’s play for promoters they might get two free spots or they might get ten. Try to remember that they don’t get infinity. So, you plus one is, maybe, OK. You plus six is not. I’m lucky enough to be able to do this but rarely ask to be on the guest list. I like to support my own scene. If I am offered or given entry to a party I never ask for more than plus one. Maybe that’s just me but I’d rather chip in for or pay for the rest of my friends and support someone risking their own money to put on an event I want to go to than spend hours trying to figure out how to get in for free.
Also, when you’re added, you really should try to actually turn up.
Finally, to everyone else out there who are always happy to contribute and those who really do appreciate being on the list (but don’t abuse that privilege or expect it, ever). I/we thank you from the bottom of our heart(s).
p.s Breaking news! (or, perhaps, a slightly shorter rant for another day).I really, really love a crowd in the DJ booth but the music really does sound better on the dance floor. Backstage is a great place to visit for a little bit but don’t miss the party. It’s out in front of the speakers.
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